Important Announcement Regarding Sticker & Box Variants

Since the beginning of time (or at least late 2014, when we started the site), there has always been the debate about whether or not PPG should have separate entries in our database for sticker and box variants. For the most part, our opinion has always been a resounding “no”, simply because the values are generally not that different, with very few exceptions anyway. I stand by my opinion that a lot of the so called difference is hype-generated and not true market value. Take the DC Universe/DC Super Heroes boxes, for instance. Sure, someone might pay $80 for a DC Universe Flash, which creates the illusion that it goes for more, but then the next day you might see one sell for $7. Despite all this, changes are coming in the way sticker and box variants are being handled.

We have started by identifying convention releases from 2014 to present that have sticker variations, and are going to do a mass duplication of these items once testing is done. This is primarily to focus on shared exclusives, so you’ll see a lot of new entries from SDCC, ECCC, NYCC, and Star Wars Celebration. The current entries will be transformed into the shared exclusives and relabeled as such. For instance, the 2017 SDCC Red She-Hulk will be renamed from “Red She-Hulk” to “Red She-Hulk [Summer Convention]”, with the Exclusive field reading as “Walgreens (SDCC)”. A new entry will be created for the convention stickered items and will be called “Red She-Hulk [SDCC]”, with the Exclusive field reading “San Diego Comic Con”.

Important note for existing owners: Once the moves have completed, you will need to update your collection if you have the con exclusive and not the shared exclusive. Once all is said and done, we will release a list of all items that have been duplicated.

While we are currently focusing on particular con exclusives, we have other items in mind to duplicate. There are some box variants (DC Universe chases, The Dark Knight Batman, The Last Jedi re-releases), and prereleases (namely Hot Topic and Bait). At this time we are not considering breaking out US vs international releases, such as those that have Underground Toys stickers rather than their US exclusive counterparts.

We’ll provide further updates as they occur.

UPDATES

I wanted to add a few points to the post.

“I don’t see the point, you should collect for the item itself, not the sticker.” People collect in different ways. Some consider the item as a whole, including the sticker, and will pay more for an actual convention sticker over a shared exclusive sticker. While you might not collect this way, others do, and we’re trying accommodate as many collectors as possible. In the end, if you don’t base your collecting on the sticker variations, this change has little to no effect on you.

“The value should be for the Pop, not for the sticker.” Again, that’s not always the case. All you have to do is look at some of the recent SDCC or Star Wars Celebration items to see that the disparity between con releases and shared releases is increasing. You might not pay more for a con sticker, nor would I, but that doesn’t mean people aren’t doing it.  In fact this might make the version with the less desirable sticker cheaper!

“This will cause people to make fake stickers.” People already make fake stickers, so this is nothing new. It just means we’ll have to take extra caution when processing these sales, if it proves to be more than just a perceived problem. Additional attention to these helps us keep the data accurate, and helps clear up any ambiguity in our marketplace, where we have issues with sellers listing shared sticker items as con sticker items. This has caused a great deal of contention and disappointment with buyers who have received an item that didn’t include the sticker they were expected.

We will also look at how to spot fake stickers and a way to group items which only difference is the sticker so they can be seen together.

Based on the feedback we’ve received, our plan is to take this slowly at first. We’re going to try 20 items at first, analyze, and then move forward.

PatientX

The founder of PPG, I am a long-time action figure collector who started collecting Pops in 2012. I am fan of Star Wars, DC Comics, Alien, music, Royals baseball, KU basketball, and geek culture in general.

82 thoughts on “Important Announcement Regarding Sticker & Box Variants

  • October 10, 2017 at 10:56 am
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    Not a fan of this idea. There are many sellers online who make ‘replacement’ stickers for Chases, Con exclusives, and anything else you could imagine. What we are seeing now is people slapping Chase stickers on common Pops and passing them off (and succeeding with selling them) as Chases to unknowing new fans of the hobby. People were also putting Chase stickers on the common Twin Peaks Pop (originally scheduled to be a Chase) just because they knew others would figure it was rare and scoop it up.

    Now we are going to see sellers/flippers swapping out stickers for a few bucks just to raise the value of the item. All Con exclusives, whether you get them at the Cons or online, start at the same price. They are not re-issues like Disney or Star Wars. There should be no difference in their value.

  • October 10, 2017 at 10:59 am
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    This is completely ridiculous. The value shouldn’t be based on the sticker, but the pop itself.

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:03 am
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    I personally don’t think the sticker should make a difference either, but many feel otherwise. If they didn’t, we wouldn’t be asked continually when we are going to break out so and so because A goes for more than B. Sometimes it’s the case, sometimes it’s not. The reality is, we’re seeing more of a disparity between stickered exclusives than we used to, it’s been requested by many, and more than anything the ambiguity is causing problems in our marketplace.

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:06 am
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      Why though? Do these people realize that sometimes the Convention exclusives are actually harder to get online than they are at the actual Cons? James Gunn most certainly did not sell out in 6 seconds in New York City. Sounds to me like people want to be reimbursed for their flights and hotels more than anything.

      • October 10, 2017 at 11:14 am
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        What do flights and hotel have anything to do with what we’re doing here?

        • October 10, 2017 at 11:26 am
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          It was sarcasm. But in the end, there is absolutely no other difference in these Pops from the Con versus online besides the fact that the former group had to likely spend money on flights and hotels to get the exact same items.

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:06 am
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    I don’t think there should be duplicates of every one. Just when you add it to your collection, it could prompt you asking you which one you have. Also, is this going to include the European exclusive stickers? For example, something that is a Hot Topic exclusive in North America, would have either an Underground Toys sticker, or more recently a silver exclusive sticker on it in Europe.

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:11 am
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      Your answer is in the final paragraph of the post.

      • October 11, 2017 at 11:21 am
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        Thanks, not sure how I missed that.

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:21 am
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    Well this is stupid. It’s not like everyone can afford to get to the actual event to get the intended sticker.

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:28 am
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    It’s for reasons like this I’ve stopped collecting altogether. This has turned into one of the biggest cash-grabs I’ve ever seen. While flippers may make some coin here and there flipping the odd Convention exclusive, no one is making more money than Funko and they’re laughing at all of us straight to the bank. The market has been flooded with countless variants and reissues all of which render most all of them worthless. At the end of the day it’s going to be flippers and Funko staring at each other because none of us give a shit anymore.

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:30 am
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      And yet, you’re still here…

    • October 12, 2017 at 12:35 am
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      Couldnt agree more. Been saying it for months now, that “stickers” sell regardless of what the Pop is. Its getting absurd really.

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:32 am
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    I agree that sticker and box variants should be noted, but I’m not sure these deserve their own entry. I mean does that mean all of the POP!s from Japan get their own entry too, just because the bottom of the box is going to have a big Japanese sticker on the bottom 95% of the time? What about the POP Life (Asia) releases – do those all get new entries too just because they have a POP Life hologram sticker on the bottom? Or do those fall into the Underground Toys “variants” that you mentioned weren’t going to be noted as of right now.

    Also, please figure out a way that the search can display any of these variant entries all grouped together and not spaced out through the results. The search is already finicky and I hope this doesn’t muck up results somehow.

    Anyway, thanks for keeping the site going strong and thanks for informing us of changes!

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:36 am
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    This is ridiculous, a pop is a pop. A difference in box I can get but not a change in the sticker should make no difference on the worth of the pop.

    • October 10, 2017 at 8:57 pm
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      That is your opinion (and personally I couldn’t care less what sticker is on the box either) but that doesn’t mean many other people don’t see things differently. We aren’t doing this on a whim, it’s due to differences we’ve seen in eBay sales

    • October 11, 2017 at 11:01 am
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      It’s simple. The people who went to the convention want this and the people who didn’t go doesn’t. Check ebay, the sticker matters!

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:51 am
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    I do not think this is a good idea. Can we please not do this thanks

  • October 10, 2017 at 12:34 pm
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    Sticker shouldnt matter but some people will find any reason to charge more for something if they can. If any of you ever look at sports cards on ebay, the ebay 1/1 is a running joke amongst collectors. I went to the Salt Lake Con this year and I wanted to buy a Megazord pop. I found it at one vendor for 60 with the Summer Convention sticker, same vendor had the Toy Tokyo sticker one for 75. I refused to buy either one because of this pricing bs. I ended up finding it with the Summer Con sticker for 50 at a different vendor. Its a sticker, it literally has no value unless its a numbered sticker. I get Funko wants differentiate where its at but the secondary market shouldnt reflect different prices unless it is truly limited.

  • October 10, 2017 at 12:52 pm
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    How about making a poll first to see if people really want this or not? Personally I don’t think it’s a good idea since there are already way too much variant on some pops making it harder to search and more international retailers are beginning to put their own exclusive stickers on pops (Popcultcha).

  • October 10, 2017 at 12:53 pm
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    Hooray! LOL

  • October 10, 2017 at 12:54 pm
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    People against the idea are just tweerky type of collectors that take the pop out of the box causing stress lines on the corner edges of the box reducing it’s mint condition. I think this is a great idea. True collectors know the rarity of something based on when it was released and the amount of those items when they were released. Someone who gets rare Comic Con tickets, Pays hundreds for them, waits In long lines for hours and fights to get POPS with exclusive SDCC stickers deserves a much higher price tag than some lazy schlub laying on his couch with their laptop and ordering them online from Walgreens webpage for $10 with the Summer Convention sticker. Get real people.

    • October 10, 2017 at 3:50 pm
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      Thats not really fair because some people like me can’t spend 1.5K every year in airline tickets and hotels for a toy (lets face it, its a toy), its much easier to go to walmart and pick one up. I mean I like looking at the value of my Pops but I get them because I ENJOY them not because its worth $XXX. Your the one that needs to “get real”.

    • October 11, 2017 at 6:09 am
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      The problem with your logic about the “rarity of something based on when it was released,” is that they release them all at the same time. There is no limited amount released to the cons with any variance other than a simple sticker that anyone can reproduce, with the exception of those that truly are limited like the SDCC Holographic Darth Maul, where they only made 480 of them. The stores and the cons all get the same exact POP!s released at the same time, just with different stickers on them.

    • October 12, 2017 at 8:58 pm
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      Well if they’re gonna separate the stickers based on the rarity then I think they should also have separate values for the Original releases of Vaulted pops vs the new release of them. Like in the case of the Bruce Lee pops. Even though the originals were like 2015 and rarer the new ones are reproduced with a 2017 production date and are given the same value. I think this should be addressed.

    • October 14, 2017 at 12:01 am
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      Are you kidding? This is one of the most elitist and snobbish posts I’ve read regarding pops and that’s sayin a lot.

      Stress lines?
      Lazy schlubs?

      You sir need a new hobby and need tk stop thinking you’re better than someone else.

  • October 10, 2017 at 1:00 pm
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    I am one who does look for various stickers, on some pops I like. I currently note the type sticker in the notes section, but it would be awesome to have a more static option to flag what type of sticker the box had or, perhaps the type of box. This should really be for informational purposes and not really used to try and determine a value. It is already difficult to track value of pops sold without adding on these parameters. I think it makes sense to add flagging options in your collection as to what type of sticker, box, etc. I do not think it should be used for value tracking…..

  • October 10, 2017 at 1:21 pm
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    Literally anyone can make a fake sticker. You know that, right?

  • October 10, 2017 at 1:47 pm
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    And what about IB and OOB variants of the same pop? I have some of the OOB figures and they count as IB with the full price. That’s not convenient and difficult to track. This makes more difference in price, not the stickers:(

    • October 10, 2017 at 2:32 pm
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      I agree. I wish there would be some way to do this. But, they would literally need to do this for EVERY single pop in the guide. Which I’m sure would be a massive undertaking. But a necessary one at some point.

      • October 12, 2017 at 8:02 pm
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        The thing is they wouldn’t need to a new entry for every single piece. Each piece should just have options to select that categorizes them appropriately. Click on OOB and by default the value of the Pop drops 20-30% as a general average based on popular opinion.

        Sticker options should also be added to original pop. Creating duplicate entries is basically denormalizing the data and making this system even more error prone than it was previously.

  • October 10, 2017 at 1:54 pm
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    I have pops with SDCC, ECC, SWC & NYCC stickers, so thank you. I have no plan to sell my collection. But if something was to happen like a house fire I would want the increased value to replace my pops.

  • October 10, 2017 at 1:55 pm
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    I mean, how about adding some useful features that would actually help collectors out, such as allowing for collectors to choose more than just a top 10 list? That “more reporting features coming soon” text has literally been there for years.

    Prices aren’t vastly different for something like this on ebay. It’s a pointless feature, and the attitude of the site admin is astounding when responding to justifiable criticism over something like this. This reeks of market manipulation.

    • October 10, 2017 at 9:01 pm
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      How could this possibly manipulate the market?

      Also, just because you don’t find this update useful doesn’t mean others won’t. (Some may find a top 10/20/30 not particularly useful for example, but that doesn’t mean we won’t add other features like that in the future.)

  • October 10, 2017 at 1:57 pm
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    so people are trading for the stickers now? getting too off the rails, who wants to collect 2 of the same pop because of the sticker being different only, at least the chase offers something different.

  • October 10, 2017 at 2:25 pm
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    And now the faux sticker printing business will run rampant on ebay

  • October 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm
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    I feel as though an item that actually came from the comic con should be worth more then the same item that got sold at any other location (Hot Topic for example). It’s just my opinion of course…

  • October 10, 2017 at 2:30 pm
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    I think this is a great move as far as making the guide a resource. It will make it much easier for a collector to figure out what they have in their collection rather than going into the forums or a facebook group and asking people what they have. It will also help out those that do actually care about sticker/ box variants make the decision as to what price they actually want to pay for a certain sticker/ variant. I’m all for getting more information into the hands of the collectors and I think this will be a great addition to PPG as a resource for Pop collectors.

    Flippers and sticker fakers are going to do their thing whether or not PPG does this. I think that PPG arming collectors with more information will help collectors spot fakes or scams as well.

  • October 10, 2017 at 3:06 pm
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    Box variants? Fine. I’ll with that.

    Sticker variants? No. It’s literally the same pop and people can make very convincing fake stickers to get the variant they want. I find this to be ridiculous and a huge inconvenience to those of us that are already happy with our collections now. It’s just gonna make everything more confusing and this is all to weigh the needs of a few.

    Please reconsider and don’t do this.

  • October 10, 2017 at 3:43 pm
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    IMO its not a smart thing to do.
    First, because most are not sticker whores people will end up buying the summer/fall convention ones and it will actually drop the price of the con ones.
    Second, it will become a business where counterfeit stickers will now absolutely be used.
    Third, What about the Funko Shop numbered exclusives?! They literally sell out in minutes and have less online than the actual convention ones but they’ll say summer/fall convention instead of NYCC or SDCC. What about Toy Tokyo vs Con?! James Gunns pop just recently sold on Funko Shop in seconds and there were only about 100 but because itll have the Fall con sticker it will be valued less?! That makes absolutely no sense!!
    Last, Pops arent supposed to even be valued on their boxes and now you want to values based on a sticker?! It should only be valued based on the pop variant. You do realize some pops show up without the sticker theyre supposed to have right. Now those people will be screwed based on your sticker valuation.
    This is coming from someone who does collect based on the stickers and I still dont believe this should be done AT ALL!
    Nobody wants to deal with more crap in this hobby, its difficult enough.

  • October 10, 2017 at 3:44 pm
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    Why have different stickers to begin with. They are exactly the same POP! I could care less if it comes from a con or a store/online. As others have noted,there is no real price variation on auction sites. However I have seen the price dive here for a POP! due to the final price of a damaged box at auction.

  • October 10, 2017 at 5:44 pm
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    Not a fan of this idea.

  • October 10, 2017 at 6:17 pm
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    NO NO NO NO! PLEASE!!!

  • October 10, 2017 at 6:53 pm
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    I don’t like this idea at all. Collecting POP used to be fun. Now it felt more like a chore. I buy POP because I love seeing them on myself. I buy variant or exclusive because there are different. But as for stickers, I don’t really care. I only care for what’s inside the box. I have purchase Con Exclusive without the sticker because it’s old and sticker fell off. Are you going to create a 3rd category for Con Exclusive sold at a Con, share exclusive and missing stickers. Don’t get me on the flippers. I hate when a new releases comes out in the store and anyone are able to buy 10 of the same POP. For someone like me to have a 9-5 job, I could never wait in line in the morning to buy POP. Please just improve this site with better sorting options or even create an app that allow off-line view of your collection for mobile devices. I have up to 1700+ POP/Dorbz and I often purchase duplicate POP in the store by accident because I forgot I pre-order it somewhere else . Thank you!

    • October 10, 2017 at 8:47 pm
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      I think many people are missing the point of this update. This isn’t us trying to get you to care about sticker differences, this is an update for the many people that continuously contact us about sales that are much higher with actual con stickers. If you have no interest in con stickers (like myself) then just continue focusing on the shared exclusives listings. No one is saying you have to change your collecting style, this just gives the collectors that DO care about stickers a more accurate database.

  • October 10, 2017 at 7:28 pm
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    Whilst I think it’s silly as it will create a heap of fake stickers, the fakes now in some cases are very good! But I can’t see how ppg can please everyone with this, the people who go in lotteries and spend big $$$ to go to the con want their pops to be worth more, I’ve haven’t heard it brought up in any groups so wasn’t aware there was such an issue? I think logic will prevail and this should only be a test period, there’s a bigger discrepancy with stickered exclusive vs non stickered which I thought would be addressed first,
    I may not like this idea but I do get it!!!

  • October 10, 2017 at 7:43 pm
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    Sounds stupid to me. I just want categories. I get tired of looking through all my listed pops in one big mess. I want it to be itemized, if I want to see what my Vikings pops are going for I shouldn’t have to sift through my labyrinth pops to see them…..

  • October 10, 2017 at 8:08 pm
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    So now we base prices off stickers? Makes no sense. Still the same figure. Horrible idea!

  • October 10, 2017 at 8:24 pm
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    I think entries should be the same but there should be a drop down box that allows you to update it the sticker type.

  • October 10, 2017 at 10:12 pm
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    I have only been collecting for about a year. Before i started collecting, i did a bunch of research on pops to find out whats real and not. I tried to make an honest effort as i know pops can get real costly real quick. To me and me alone, it doesnt matter if the sticker says comicon or fall exclusive. Its the pop i seek and not the sticker. Just my .02 worth. On a side note, Thanks for keeping up with all these funko products for us ( me). I do appreciate all the work that goes on behind the scenes and do appreciate it.

    Jim

  • October 10, 2017 at 10:30 pm
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    Why would you make duplicate entries for all of these rather than a separate table that houses variations tied to the primary key of the pop? It seems convoluted and actually detrimental to the users of PPG to try and figure out which one they have. You are answering the masses yet again with a chump solution.

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:27 pm
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    This is a terrible idea, now people are going to print fake stickers. People already don’t want to make trades if you have a shared sticker, this is going to dramatically rise the price of convention stickers when people already know to place them a little higher, this is a stupid idea.

  • October 11, 2017 at 1:10 am
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    Personally, I want the convention sticker. IDK why. I know the pain staking process of trying to get one. That said, it should be based on the pop due to price gouging. If the people who scam knew there is no difference, then we all win. Maybe the pop won’t be worth as much in the long run, but at least you will know what you’re getting. I never even realized, despite seeing all the custom pops, that people would use Chase sticker and so fourth to up-sell items. That sucks. That’s only cause they know people will pay. I myself check here first on a pop price before buying or selling. If scammers do the same, then they will be ebay by a system that doesn’t allow for price difference.

  • October 11, 2017 at 6:51 am
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    I’m sorry but if you are dumb enough to spend hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars just to go to the convention to get a POP with that one little sticker and whine and complain that it is more valuable than the ones that are purchased elsewhere. They are the same exact toy in everyway. If there is a variance on it great, then yes the Sticker basically telling me hey look for the variance. If the variant not there I know its fake, if it is there than its most likely real. Other wise, why should you care about what sticker is on there???

  • October 11, 2017 at 7:17 am
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    Yeah this is just a waste, it’s the same toy regardless if you spent a huge amount to go to a con and have a experience or bought the shared version in the store. Stickers can be reproduces heck Popgeek had the new NYCC con sticker already and Hot Topic reproduced fake stickers for sale. Guess it will just make everyones transition to the Covetly or Funko app that much easier. (and even in Funko own app they don’t Differentiate stickers from cons or shared.

  • October 11, 2017 at 10:30 am
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    People do not make fake stickers because PPG records prices, they make them because a sticker can make a POP significantly more valuable. Tracking those values makes a lot of sense – both for the folks that care about the sticker and for others that do not (as the items they want will probably be cheaper to buy). I think going with the change (see the update in the article) of testing this with 20 items makes a lot of sense.

  • October 11, 2017 at 10:44 am
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    While I myself find collecting them based on stickers to be ridiculous, I do understand that serious collectors have their own style. Some people collect in-box while others collect out-of-box. I know that with other products, having an item from a different region will count as a completely different item, even if it is just a 4 digit number on the side of the item that changes. I understand that some people are sceptical on how this will affect the prices of items but you cant alienate different collector groups because some may take advantage of it (and lets face it, flippers helping stores unpack boxes just to get their hands on chases is a much worse thing).

  • October 11, 2017 at 1:25 pm
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    So will the Asian market Star Wars pops (Jar Jar Queen Amidala etc) be separated also, just because of a age number?

  • October 11, 2017 at 5:46 pm
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    I personally really support this idea as I own several pops from actual conventions over the shared versions. I always want to know what people are willing to offer for my pops even though I don’t really buy ones I don’t plan on keeping. I just like knowing those stats. I understand this is an unpopular move but I’m in favor of it.

  • October 11, 2017 at 9:01 pm
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    It’s funny because I think the majority of my expensive pops are commons that have been vaulted and never had a sticker to begin with.

    I don’t really care what convention sticker my pops have, I only collect the pops of the characters I want, rather than just because it is limited or hard to find

  • October 11, 2017 at 9:18 pm
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    The sticker definitely makes a difference with some Pops. Look at the brown Wolverine.

  • October 11, 2017 at 9:57 pm
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    This is a real bad idea. It feels like you got pressure from some big fish dealers and caved to them. You keep defending yourself by saying you have many requests for this feature, but this talk back is about 80% against this idea. If there is such a demand for this feature replace the stock photo poll and let this sites users decide.

  • October 12, 2017 at 12:38 am
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    This should have been a poll prior to being considered, as realistically, this idea is horrible. If youre actually going to go to THIS length to create value for Pops, why wouldnt you at least start with out of box or in box value first.

    All this does is create more hype for stickers that realistically shouldn’t affect the value of the physical pop itself.

  • October 12, 2017 at 5:06 am
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    Why dont you make a voteing poll, then decide based on that. Because myself personally think this is not just a bad idea, but a silly idea. Regardless of what i think though, you should have people vote on this. Make it a top priority post and/or poll so people can not physically miss it. Then depending on the way everyone sways. Then change or stay the same.

  • October 12, 2017 at 8:11 am
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    Man, a lot of nay-sayers these days… wtf happened to letting people collect how they collect? At the end of the day, we are all grown-ass adults collecting childrens’ toys 🙂

    The variants do hold a different value, and that’s why this has to happen. The store shared exclusives keep going for ridiculous amounts of money, when they really shouldn’t cost anything more than what a chase costs (if that). If there was a clear distinction, maybe it would deter flippers from buying out all the shared exclusives and selling them for ludicrous amounts of money, while allowing more of us collectors to pay in-store prices bc they’ll have more in stock.

  • October 12, 2017 at 11:43 am
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    I think ppg screws the pop collecting game anyway, dont get me wrong its nice to know what your collection is worth but it also encourages flippers and people hiking the price up on ebay, collect what you like, but now to many people just go and buy out all the “exclusives” from the stores just to sell them on ebay for a higher price, then ppg have to say that the pop is now worth more than it should be, then everyone else who sees one in the shop buys it just to sell it on ebay, now they want to value on stickers as well, not everyone collects in the box so what is the point of that, i think funko will eventually lose all the interest they have in these, because everyone is getting annoyed at different variants and re-releasing the old pops but in a “new pose”, collecting these use to be fun, now your scared about not buying a pop you like when you see it just incase it suddenly becomes rare and worth a lot of money and you end up having to spend three-four times amount.

  • October 12, 2017 at 12:02 pm
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    I want to word my response to this very carefully. Although no one may care, a little bit about my resume regarding collectibles. My dad started running sports card shows in 1989 as a side business, and did so for over twenty years. I started collecting comic books in 1986 at 12 years of age. I owned my own shop from 2008 until 2015 when I closed it to take care of my ailing father. I know collectible pop culture markets pretty well, and have seen them manipulated to the severe determent of a hobby multiple times. Having said that, I’m not accusing PPG of knowingly participating in market manipulation. I have no proof of that, and I would like to think better of the people who run this site.
    I do not however, believe for a second that this decision is as simple or as altruistic as, ” This is a request by too many members too ignore.” , nonsense. The people who have the most to gain from this are large dealers who do the convention circuit. My guess is not only do the want convention exclusives higher priced because they have easier access to them then most collectors, but they are having a harder time justifying Con. mark-ups. I’m quite sure many dealers have, either pre or post sale been questioned why the Con editions are more expensive than shared exclusives. Is there a limited number on the sticker indicating increased scarcity? Uh, no. Is the box design or Pop itself somehow different from the shared Pop? Nope. So what makes this Con edition more desirable? Well, um, it has the faint scent of snack bar nachos and B.O. and was at the same physical address as the great Stan Lee and Nathan Fillion, so pay me an extra 25 bucks for this Pop sucker. Yeah, no. I bet many dealers have lost sales, or future business prior to sale because of Shared exclusives and want to put a stop to this.
    Pops are really in their infancy as a collectible, and this kind of unwarranted greed( and hey, I’m all for greed in collectibles if it makes any damn sense) can kneecap a new hobby toot-sweet. Pops can have a long self life as a hobby like comic books, sports memorabilia and Magic cards, or they can be the new Pogs and Beanie Babies. Please, put up a poll and let this sites members make this decision. Oh, and when I mentioned this to my wife last night, it took her all of two seconds to bring up how this will make counterfeiting stickers much more common. And she doesn’t collect a damn thing, just tolerates it from my goofy ass.
    So, to summarize this long post. I can see through this bullshit with my X-Ray Specs.

    • October 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm
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      Couldnt agree more @kord27

    • October 12, 2017 at 8:07 pm
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      Well put.. there is a factor of money and satisfying advertisers needs here it seems painted as an answer to every collectors’s wildest dream.

  • October 12, 2017 at 2:04 pm
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    Thanks Bingo20.

  • October 12, 2017 at 3:42 pm
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    There is so many levels of stupid on this idea. Here is one.
    What dream world do you guys at PPG live in? Do you not think people will simply replace the convention stickers with comic con ones?
    I guess I will keep the convention sticker on the ones that I own with convention sticker on it because clearly they are about to get a whole lot rarer than the con ones. If we are now basing this on sticker value. Price manipulation at its best!
    I expect now that the convention stickers to be worth more.

  • October 12, 2017 at 3:59 pm
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    Seems like there is more people against this than for it… how does he say that he’s getting so many members asking for this. As much as I love the stickers i am against just like the rest of you. You can try to spot the fakes all you want but fake stickers look so real now. Your just encouraging sticker swapping now. This site is going down hill fast.

  • October 12, 2017 at 8:20 pm
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    I’ve read through most of these comments and noticed that the majority hates the idea.

    Adding a whole other dimension to the pricing of pops shouldn’t be the main concern of PPG, up until just recently your ebay sales records were weeks behind, and I still find entries that are just not updated with one or more ebay sales. I’ve even “reported an issue” for many of them and they were never responded to.

    If you can barely keep up with demand of sales and new releases as it is, why would you add this additional thing for those who are processing records to stop and think about? It probably has to do with money and who is paying your bills to keep the lights on based on some of the comments that I’ve read above…. but there are ways to solve that problem without bending to the will of sponsors who threaten to leave if you don’t do what they ask. Collectors commenting are 90% against it and 10% for it, this means that an external force is pushing this as your priority and it makes no damn sense. Your priority should be to provide the best data that you can and focus on moving and categorizing the new sales so that data is accurate as possible. If the data is good and can be trusted, the right sponsors will come along, or you can actually leverage this as a competitive advantage for other endeavors which would help to finance the operations here. Leave the sticker price adjustments to the sellers of the pops who can quickly do some ebay research and skim through records to see which ones have the con sticker.

    4-LOM SDCC is a pretty clear-cut example of no real difference in value from galactic con to SWC, it’s a waste of time. Packaging of the pops is a different story all together and makes sense, glad to see separate entries for clamshell vs boxed SDCC 2010 grails.

    You want to do right by the customers and users of this data, then listen when they speak, accept when they offer help (I have offered multiple times, with only a too proud for your own good response if I was dignified with a response at all). If you don’t start doing this, no one will trust or want to use PPG anymore and it will fall by the wayside while a competitor swoops in. Please focus on what’s important.

    • October 13, 2017 at 7:47 am
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      i completely agree with crispyman on this.

  • October 12, 2017 at 9:05 pm
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    Very well said crispyman. Cannot be said better.

    I think PPG has its response from its users.

  • October 12, 2017 at 9:23 pm
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    Well if you, PPG see the need to separate stickers then why not also separate the older vaulted pop values from the newer re-releases. Like in the case with the Bruce Lee Pops. You have the release set as 2015 Bait Exclusive but don’t have another separate value classification for the ones re-released earlier this year with a 2017 production stamp. This makes the 2015 and 2017 the same in value. There are lots of other pops that have this issue as well. I agree with the other members that all people are gonna do is sticker swap these pops to increase the resale value of their shared exclusive ones.

    • October 13, 2017 at 5:43 am
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      Here is something I was unaware of, production stamps. This should definitely be a determining factor in value as it is something tangible that cant be easily reproduced, where the stickers can. This holds true for books and many other things out in the collector market.

      This is just for fun: https://i.redd.it/pfhifnzpz7rz.jpg

  • October 12, 2017 at 10:22 pm
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    Is it not possible to just add a field for Box Sticker and have it list the appropriate stickers available for that pop?

    I don’t really care either way as I don’t really care what my pops are worth, however it would be neat to know what stickers I have on what pops.

    Yes I have that many I can’t just look at the box, it would take me half an hour to find it first.

  • October 14, 2017 at 12:06 am
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    I suggest reading “The Lean Startup” by Eric Ries. It’s primary point is that rather than assuming you know what your customers want you should ask them and then implement it. Then ask their opinion regularly.

    Food for thought.

  • October 14, 2017 at 4:27 am
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    Any com a con exclusive no matter where from should be higher value and treated differently. Certain star wars ones like holographic Darth maul and such should also be treated differently. Basicaly anything 750 or less in its release.

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